haggle hagel is a nasty guy. he is surrounded by people that lie to us all the time. that's the truth. and what woodward did he helped bring the veil down ever so slightly and now we'll see what the rest of need ya does as i said on my show. seems to be about 80/10 defending the white house. 80 defending, about 10% defending -- another 10% are probably drunk. >> neil: i don't know about the drunk thing. mark, always good having you on. now, whether gene sperling meant to be threatening, my nest given says it comes down from the top. you say the chief sets the tone. >> the culture. the president has been running around like an attack dog, scaring the hell out of the american public, at best being somewhat disingenuous about the sequester, which was his idea. plenty of time since 2011 to do something about it. and i step badge and if i had a message to the american public there isn't a corporation in the united states, if you have a business that is 100 million you're telling me you can't take out 2.3% in costs? >> neil: has to draw back the harsh rhetoric, and from the